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    • Tom Maybrier

      I'm not sure if you read the article or not but the swastika is an ancient (literally) symbol that dates back to the Neolithic period and appears in many cultures throughout history.

      That's thousands of years of meaning superseded by roughly 90 years of it's current associations with the Third Reich.

      The various flags of the Confederate States (I'm going to assume you're referring to the "battle flag" design that persists today as a symbol of the American South) is probably a spinoff of the Cross of Burgundy married to the "Stars and Bars" design used in the early 1860s and has its origins placed firmly in the concept of secession over the right to own slaves, among other specifically American historical events and attitudes.

      I think the parallel you are attempting to draw is short sighted and willfully ignorant of the vast disparity between the depth and breadth of meaning contained in each symbol.

      • Jed Oelbaum

        Totally, bro. Wear that swastika loud and proud. And if you happen to come across any elderly Jewish or Roma people, just grace them with your mystic eastern hoo-ha and explain to them that they are ignorant of its rich, valuable history. I'm sure they can learn a lot from your enlightened stance.

  • Tom Maybrier

    love this - we need more discussion about re-claiming this symbol and re-associating it with its true meaning in the west. the swastika appears over and over again in culture. i'm at the point now where I have fully divested the symbol of any negative baggage in my own art. I hope soon others can do the same.

  • Ben Goldhirsh

    really appreciated this read. started out a bit apprehensive about the thesis, but get/dig where the author takes it. I've been feeling for a while to take the mustache away from hitler - i.e. chaplin wore it first - but hitler wore it so hard that it will be interesting to see if it can ever find a home in culture again. I think the same challenge goes for the swastika, how will I ever be able to digest it in the light that post frames if inititial use is tied to hitler, and thus precluding the widespread use needed to reconnect it with its origin?

    • Mike Cutno

      Great question. It's actually an archetypal symbol. It's a part of the human unconscious ala Carl Jung. Exposure to Asian culture and spirituality has changed my perception of it. I think if you can decontextualize it in your mind then it helps to see it for what it is. Also, and this sounds weird, but we can give compassion to all of the misguided movements that occurred during WWII. We've already done this with Germany and Japan today. We aren't yelling at them for what happened. So we can give compassion and send it back in time.

      • Ben Goldhirsh

        I will try - both to immerse myself in the culture from which the symbol finds origin, and also to bring understanding to what occurred. I look forward to this project and am eager to see where it takes my brain and heart.