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  • Sharon Kelly

    An important era in America's history that has been too long given the generic treatment in history books within our educational system (elementary level). Hopefully, more detailed instruction and analysis is given to this celebrated piece of legislation in history classes throughout our schools. Perhaps the movie Lincoln will prove to be the 'watershed' moment we need to get the conversation going...

  • Beatrice Mitchell

    THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE THEIR SAY IN OUR HISTORY BOOKS. THE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE DEDICATED AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES RIGHT ALONG WITH THE WHITE MAN TO SAVE AND DELIVER THIS COUNTRY FROM MORE THAN ONE WAR, AND LET US REMEMBER ALSO, THAT IT WAS THE BLACK MAN WHO BUILT THE WHITE HOUSE AND NOW IT HOUSES ONE AS OUR FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. THANK GOD FOR ALL MENS RIGHT TO FREEDOM AND CHOICES.

  • kathylilly34

    up to I saw the bank draft for $8811, I didnt believe that my friends brother realy making money part-time on their apple laptop.. there dads buddy has done this for only nine months and just now repayed the debts on their cottage and purchased a great Honda. go to..... BIT40.com

  • Mark Curran

    Katz is pretty typical of people who trash Lincoln. Ironically, in his day, LIncoln was vilfied by people for just the opposite reason -- Katz wants to give people the impression Lincoln was not so much against slavery, he just cared about the Union.

    Yes, you can find such a quote -- the famous one is in a letter to Greely. Mr Katz considers himself a scholar? Of what? He should know that at the time LIncoln wrote this, Ohio Congressmen were calling for the arrest of anyone (they meant Lincoln) who even spoke the words that slavery should end for the war to end. Anyone who dared to say, let the war end slavery, should be ARRESTED.

    I bet you never heard that. If you saw the movie Lincoln, they showed some of the pressures LIncoln faced, but no movie could show the real pressures. LIncoln was faced with most people, including his soldiers and generals at the time, just wanting to end the war His own advisors were saying wait, let slavery be litgated later, let a national referendum on slavery, just end the war if the South agrees to lay down arms.

    Lincoln could have -- he was under massive pressure to end the war. The South was sending messages from Davis, via Blair, that they would lay down arms, but they could keep slavery. Lincoln said no - no - no . We end slavery. We do NOT end the war until we end slavery.

    This was alluded to in the movie, but not strongly enough. SO Congressmen wanted LIncoln arrested. Really. These were not lunatic tea party nut jobs, these were Northern CONGRESSMEN.

    SO LIncoln had to say -- and honestly so -- IF -- IF _ IF he could keep the union together, he would. Notice the IF . Lincoln used words like a brain surgeon uses a laser beam. He did not say IF because he needed to fill up space. IF he could keep the Union together. LIncoln had also said like 50 times, the best way to defeat slavery is to limit it's spread. To limit it's spread, you had to keep the union together.

    Lincoln was an artful dodger that way. Yes, he said that IF statement, and he was quite deceptive. In the movie Lincoln uses a similiar linquistic ruse- - he said something like he assured the House that the Confederates would not come into Washington -- because he was keeping them at HAMPTON ROADS.

    That's sorta was Lincoln was doing with his letter to Greely.

    But learn about Lincoln and those who trash him. http://trashinglincoln.blogspot.com/

    • shroomer

      "While Lincoln fought for two years to preserve the Union “without freeing a single slave,” the numbers of self-liberated continued to grow. " These Heroes freed themselves aiding the North enough for their Victory . The Northern Industrialist needed to completely remove any potential strength from the South . The Rothschild 's had Won . The torch passes to Rockefeller .The Spoils of War go to Israel .

  • BlueCaterpiller

    History is told orally as it is passed through generations. It becomes embellished and improved by those who tell it, as they want to look better or have those they speak of look better. Then as it is written down, true heroes are left out. The small people, the minorities, those who bore the front of the work and the hateful words of others. History is told by those who come out shinning. I would still rather be one of those little people, because it is the little people who make society run.

    • shroomer

      That is True ! As it is Written down by Who ? What is omitted is a reflection of What and Who IS Included .In my time I have seen Bob Dylan replace the goyim du jour by the "writers" . Is Fox the writer now ?

  • mst900

    The reason authentic history is not taught in schools and on the mass racist propaganda that is TV, is that it would free white people from the brutality and racist mindset propagated by those in power necessary to continue to use a targeted readily identifiable group of people as economic fodder and more important to free black people themselves, from the psychological ties that bind.

    • shroomer

      i like that THINKING !

  • Asia Hoe

    The lies we were taught in school, whether outright misconceptions, exaggerations, or omissions, were part of the reason why American History class was always so boring to me growing up. At least when I learned about Egyption, and Greco-Roman gods, I was told plainly that I was being taught myth. That's why I gravitated more toward Ancient Civilation. This is the kind of essay I want to see in our textbooks. Too bad Corporate America has such a firm grasp on our education.

    • shroomer

      kinda like watching Porn . The known actors portraying sex acts as intended .Not Political 'personalities' acting like they want to "help and protect " me .

    • shroomer

      kinda like watching Porn . The known actors portraying sex acts as intended .Not Political 'personalities' acting like they want to "help and protect " me .

  • Taylor Hutchinson

    A rich and little understood/appreciated bit of the story that surely didn't make it into my public (Catholic) school history book or, really, any book until college. Why is that, I wonder?

    • Mark Curran

      Dont be fooled by Katz and other detractors of Lincoln. http://trashinglincoln.blogspot.com/

      As far as you not learning real history, that's true. DId you ever hear of Southern Ultimatums? All five war ultimatums were about one thing -- the spread of slavery, issues by leaders at Montgomery after secession.

      Did you ever read Jefferson Davis own book where he said Lincoln's resistance to the spread of slavery was the only "intolerable grievance" that made secession, and then war, necessary? That's right, LIncolns resistance to the SPREAD of slavery.

      Have you ever bothered to read the Southnern newspapers and documents in the year and months leading up to the Civil War? Their violent and religious based lunatic mania to spread slavery into Kansas was at the heart of the Civil War. 98% of the people in Kansas just voted AGAINST slavery -- did you eve know what? But the SOuthern leaders insisted, actually demanded in war ultimatums that slavery "be accepted and respected": in Kansas.

      When LIncoln ignored their insane demands for him to force Kansas legislature to pass slavery, the South, as promised, attacked.

      Have you ever read Sherman's letters to and from Gen Hood outside Atlanta? I suggest you read them, Sherman reacted to Hoods complaints about the Union Army and the war. Sherman wrote what has to be the best writing about the cause of the Civil War, without mentioning slavery. But slavery, the violent efforts to spread slavery, were at the heart of Confederate leaders. They did not respect states rights, they promised war if states decided for themselves issues of race and slavery. Bet they didnt teach you that.