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  • Vast Shadow

    I thought Apollo group closed down and forked into separate charter schools. Least that what Devry told me.

    Schools wont stop and change priorities... It would take more than just a small for-profit CHARTER school to fix problems. Parents would have to actually force public schools to change.
    A school shouldn't keep anyone sustained no longer than two hours. I think that is the VERY most kids should have to sit and learn. Small consistent measures have evenly shown that people learn better. With small examples applied and randomly shown. I've seen people taught with punctuation usage. They were only shown a few times and it stuck better than them reading endlessly of books of paragraphing.

    Some videos teach better than others... An most everyone can learn from examples and if that video shows well-defined examples. Any 5 year old can catch onto it.

    • Doris Yee

      Flipped learning is really interesting. Along with the other commenters on this thread, there is validity in believing this is a privileged learning method - those who can afford that type of flexible curriculum where lectures are done at night, homework during the day. Accountability for watching screencasts and listening to podcasts will always be in question. However, there is something really nice about being a class full of other students and the teacher him/herself when you’re tackling an assignment or challenge. With a teacher onsite, it makes more sense to be problem-solving and optimizing that time with him or her rather than spending a period or two just reading from a text book.

      I’d still imagine after-school mentoring programs to still be high-demand (even if this were to blossom into a nationwide trend).

      • Vast Shadow

        @ Ms Yee
        A class full of people is better than many online schools... JUST BECAUSE, you CAN SEE who you are talking to.

        Many online schools, such as University of Phoenix(One of many Apollo charter schools) had very questionable practices taking place.

        The school was not ran by anyone equivalent to teach... They imply from the get-go -- You are not being taught by a teacher.

        I spent a great amount of time, directing the entire course... I had to sit and explain things to students and the staff, too frequently. I was even asked to start being a tutor, FOR FREE. I dunno maybe they would have gave me a free diploma?
        From basic punctuations and then once they started questioning about paragraphing and didn't understand sectioning marks... Nor the correct definitions of methods of paraphrasing. I started to contact outside sources... APA and a few teaching services. Both outside sources told me I should quit going to that school, because I wasn't really benefitting from it. I just stuck with the crap college and started documenting all my FUN encounters.

        It started to get weirder too... I honestly think that I was doing some undergrads homework or several undergrads. They kept putting me in `team diversity courses, but none of their topics were over team diversity. All the topics and questions were all being directed for me to answer in comprehensive manners. Like I was teaching some idiots. Then one day I had an assignment to do... An I was like WTF is this ... This female trying to get me to do her homework.
        I had to outline, the paraphrasing of a document to explain its contents in proper means -- For TEAM Diversity. Really, it seemed was a English assignment for JOURNALISM.

        I was like OK female, I'll give you an outline.
        I wrote the outline in such a way, that it made me sound like a modest jack-ass. Like I was self-rightous and the paper I outlined -- I defined the paper was written by an idiot who didn't understand what their talking about. I wrote it in a very articulated, illistrated way. That it was hundred percent spectacular in grammar and word usage. BUT the whole idea of it basically said the outline I reviewed was STUPID(In a smart way). So the female gave me a 98 for it... An the end of the week came to... An all sudden there was one female, that had this hate for me. And after that class I had this teacher that wanted EVERY single detail explain. Very angry with me... I finished one year there than I said I'm withdrawling from this crap school cause its a scam... AN I AM NOT LEARNING anything and I shouldn't have to pay to go somewhere to teach a bunch of snobs how to do stuff. Especially for free. I reported them to the department of education and evenly set it up so that I wont have to pay any money back.

        Thats a cool thing about education system... If you do not learn and can show ample amount of proof of it -- You do not have to pay your loan back, and the company that scammed for the money gets a nice lil penalty fine.

        So you really have to watch out for online schools, they are mostly a scam... I evenly have this one group of dweebs stalking me now, always trying to get me to re-enroll into some school.

        But yea... Like you said, class rooms got their perks.

        • Doris Yee

          I'm not the biggest advocate for online education either (it's not even that cheap) but I do think the point here is digital learning. The hours with the teacher in a backwards classroom is not being shortened at all. The change is focused on structure (not environment). More interacting (a two-way relationship), and less lecturing (a one-way relationship). So the intention is that you don't lose the amount of physical time with the teacher. Instead, that time is dedicated to tutoring students when they become stuck, rather than just to impart the initial lesson. That's one of the things I practiced when I was teaching web-programming to university undergrads. I made screencasts for them to watch on their own time (presumably in the evening as "homework"). When it came to us meeting in the classroom, it was all about playing around with what they had previously watched. That interaction and conversation was valuable and rich (from a teacher perspective at least).

  • silvalance

    I would love to do this in my classroom. However, in a low-SES school where students do not have the technology at home or the desire to stay after school in library, flipped learning seems unachievable.